The spec AF buff in the archery line is using the wrong values. After patch 1.72 they had raised the AF for Ranger/Hunter buff from being like base AF values to being in line with spec AF and has been like that since they switched to the new archery system.
Patch 1.72
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.72
* We've increased the values of the self Armor Factor buffs in the Hunter's Beastcraft and Ranger's Pathfinding lines. These spells should now be comparable with a specline AF buff instead of baseline. With this change, these AF buffs will now stack with baseline buffs from Seers and Naturalists. The spell lines affected are Lynx's Pelt in Beastcraft and Invincibility in Pathfinding.
To show what the values should be based on live I took a screenshot of each AF buff at each level you get them. I was not able to find any other changes to these AF buffs other then it being moved to the archery line and scouts getting it. I believe Eden is using the pre 1.72 values for the af. Let me know if you need any other info. Thanks.
Archery Spec AF Values Wrong
Archery Spec AF Values Wrong
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Re: Archery Spec AF Values Wrong
1.72 was before archery revamp in 1.88, see https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.88
From 1.100 charplan https://sourceforge.net/projects/daoctb ... %20v1.100/
From 1.100 charplan https://sourceforge.net/projects/daoctb ... %20v1.100/
Archery AF Buff is Pre 1.72 Values
Patch 1.72 when Ranger/Hunter self AF was changed from max value of 52 to 64
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.72
Info from way back machine - 10/18/2011 which would be patch 1.109
https://web.archive.org/web/20111018091 ... ary-ranger
Spec AF buff on Eden is using pre 1.72 patch which after this patch was fixed to be spec AF value. The way back machine shows at patch 1.109 they have it listed at 64 AF for the top AF buff while Eden has it as 52 AF.
I have gone from patch 1.109 to 1.90 and there is no change to this AF buff which means the listed values from 1.109 is what it should be for Eden's 1.90 patch.
And I know a previous bug report for this was closed because they had mistakenly thought the values from a third party char builder was correct where it has the highest spec AF for archery at 52 AF but after patch 1.72 where they raised it to 64 AF, this char builder still has it at 52 meaning it is not correct and should go by DAOC own site for the time period of 1.109.
Here is a screenshot of Daoc - Charplan for daoc patch 1.75 and shows it did not implement the 1.72 AF change and later builds do not show the change also. I hope this is enough proof to get this fixed. I wish the way back machine would go a little more back but 1.109 is the oldest they have.
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.72
Info from way back machine - 10/18/2011 which would be patch 1.109
https://web.archive.org/web/20111018091 ... ary-ranger
Spec AF buff on Eden is using pre 1.72 patch which after this patch was fixed to be spec AF value. The way back machine shows at patch 1.109 they have it listed at 64 AF for the top AF buff while Eden has it as 52 AF.
I have gone from patch 1.109 to 1.90 and there is no change to this AF buff which means the listed values from 1.109 is what it should be for Eden's 1.90 patch.
And I know a previous bug report for this was closed because they had mistakenly thought the values from a third party char builder was correct where it has the highest spec AF for archery at 52 AF but after patch 1.72 where they raised it to 64 AF, this char builder still has it at 52 meaning it is not correct and should go by DAOC own site for the time period of 1.109.
Here is a screenshot of Daoc - Charplan for daoc patch 1.75 and shows it did not implement the 1.72 AF change and later builds do not show the change also. I hope this is enough proof to get this fixed. I wish the way back machine would go a little more back but 1.109 is the oldest they have.
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Re: Archery AF Buff is Pre 1.72 Values
1.72 is old archery. Not relevant.
See previous answer viewtopic.php?p=7518#p7518
See previous answer viewtopic.php?p=7518#p7518
Archery Spec AF Values Wrong
Following up on an earlier bug report that was locked:
viewtopic.php?p=7511&hilit=Invincibility#p7511
The old report claims that archery self AF buff should have the value 64 instead of the current 52.
As it was stated in the earlier report the AF buff was altered in patch 1.75 (old archery)
Patch 1.72
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.72
* We've increased the values of the self Armor Factor buffs in the Hunter's Beastcraft and Ranger's Pathfinding lines. These spells should now be comparable with a specline AF buff instead of baseline. With this change, these AF buffs will now stack with baseline buffs from Seers and Naturalists. The spell lines affected are Lynx's Pelt in Beastcraft and Invincibility in Pathfinding.
When new archery was added, scouts got the buff as well as part of the archery line.
The value was however never in the notes and eden seems to have based it's value on the wrong value from the charplaner program. (see earlier report)
The player that submitted the former bug report, failed to produce strong enough evidence, so the wrong value remained on eden.
The change from 52 to 64 was never listed in a patch note after 1.72, it was changed in 1.72 and passed on to the new archery line.
The following clearly shows what the former report didn't, this point to a date before 1.91.:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071130013 ... pell=10898
And another site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071025212 ... Hunter.asp And lastly directly from mythic before 1.90:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070702111 ... php?id=372
The value was 64 AF back at patch 1.90 (September 5, 2007) (and before)
viewtopic.php?p=7511&hilit=Invincibility#p7511
The old report claims that archery self AF buff should have the value 64 instead of the current 52.
As it was stated in the earlier report the AF buff was altered in patch 1.75 (old archery)
Patch 1.72
https://camelotherald.fandom.com/wiki/P ... rsion_1.72
* We've increased the values of the self Armor Factor buffs in the Hunter's Beastcraft and Ranger's Pathfinding lines. These spells should now be comparable with a specline AF buff instead of baseline. With this change, these AF buffs will now stack with baseline buffs from Seers and Naturalists. The spell lines affected are Lynx's Pelt in Beastcraft and Invincibility in Pathfinding.
When new archery was added, scouts got the buff as well as part of the archery line.
The value was however never in the notes and eden seems to have based it's value on the wrong value from the charplaner program. (see earlier report)
The player that submitted the former bug report, failed to produce strong enough evidence, so the wrong value remained on eden.
The change from 52 to 64 was never listed in a patch note after 1.72, it was changed in 1.72 and passed on to the new archery line.
The following clearly shows what the former report didn't, this point to a date before 1.91.:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071130013 ... pell=10898
And another site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071025212 ... Hunter.asp And lastly directly from mythic before 1.90:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070702111 ... php?id=372
The value was 64 AF back at patch 1.90 (September 5, 2007) (and before)
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