So quite a few people want the reskins?
But not the artifacts?
somebody explain what it is that would break the whole ethos?
Without being angry or shouting
fin
Why no artifacts?
Re: Why no artifacts?
I'd like to have artifacts too (and toa zones because I love them but I digress).
I believe they would add more diversity even if in the end, like current server setup, everyone would end up with almost same spec/stuff anyway.
People are afraid of TOA (artifacts, ML) content because of many reasons. I put aside ML since it's not the topic.
Main reasons I often read are time, pve, balance.
Time:
Let's be honest, it was a shitty configuration at first, when you had to wait for a mob to pop, be lucky to not get it stolen, be even more lucky to actually drop the artifact.
It was a time sink that people don't want today, me included.
PVE:
It's a no go for some of us. Getting to pve (again) to get the artifact, the scrolls then...xp that artifact.
Remember belt of the sun/moon and other artifact levelling configuration.
It was poorly designed. Again a time sink and a no go.
Balance:
That's a more debattable topic.
Some artifacts are quite op and would induce some imbalance, like SoM or even Egg of youth, and many more.
Mostly people don't want artifacts because they induce imbalance, more /use, more "cheat death" things that weren't there in what most think was the golden age of DAOC.
But that's debattable because anyone could have it and, for Egg for instance, I believe it would be something nice to have.
This being said, people on Eden rush for /use items, rush for pve bg, sobekite etc to get more and more items, being more and more powerful so it could be something ironic refusing artifacts for those reasons...
I'm fine with current server setup.
Yea, I know, if I want artifact I can go play live...
But maybe in another season setup we could try.
Maybe something like artifact already activated/level 10, that you buy with some currency or bp or doing something while pvp, I don't know..
Maybe even limit one use or artifact at a time to keep the classic feel.
I believe they would add more diversity even if in the end, like current server setup, everyone would end up with almost same spec/stuff anyway.
People are afraid of TOA (artifacts, ML) content because of many reasons. I put aside ML since it's not the topic.
Main reasons I often read are time, pve, balance.
Time:
Let's be honest, it was a shitty configuration at first, when you had to wait for a mob to pop, be lucky to not get it stolen, be even more lucky to actually drop the artifact.
It was a time sink that people don't want today, me included.
PVE:
It's a no go for some of us. Getting to pve (again) to get the artifact, the scrolls then...xp that artifact.
Remember belt of the sun/moon and other artifact levelling configuration.
It was poorly designed. Again a time sink and a no go.
Balance:
That's a more debattable topic.
Some artifacts are quite op and would induce some imbalance, like SoM or even Egg of youth, and many more.
Mostly people don't want artifacts because they induce imbalance, more /use, more "cheat death" things that weren't there in what most think was the golden age of DAOC.
But that's debattable because anyone could have it and, for Egg for instance, I believe it would be something nice to have.
This being said, people on Eden rush for /use items, rush for pve bg, sobekite etc to get more and more items, being more and more powerful so it could be something ironic refusing artifacts for those reasons...
I'm fine with current server setup.
Yea, I know, if I want artifact I can go play live...
But maybe in another season setup we could try.
Maybe something like artifact already activated/level 10, that you buy with some currency or bp or doing something while pvp, I don't know..
Maybe even limit one use or artifact at a time to keep the classic feel.
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Re: Why no artifacts?
Is there a way to make Malice a right hand pattern? I do not care about disguising my shield. I want to disguise my weapon.
My current Malice pattern only does Left hand, and the 2h pattern I have will not do it for my 1h (right hand) weapon.
My current Malice pattern only does Left hand, and the 2h pattern I have will not do it for my 1h (right hand) weapon.
That dog don't hunt...but this one does...
Re: Why no artifacts?
Between the disparate abilities of each class, differences in realm rank and realm abilities, champion levels, and the items it takes to make a template, the gap is already huge between the new and casual player base and those already established, let alone those at the higher realm ranks. Artifacts just make that gap even wider, which is why players walk away from the game.
Me.
Re: Why no artifacts?
please dont, am already afraid to come back