Feedback about common alchemy drop items

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Lynee
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Feedback about common alchemy drop items

After helping to acquire a single lich tooth yesterday I decided to look at the more common alchemy drops.

Mob farmed: Danaoin fishermen (lvl 40-45 approx)
Number of mobs: 180
Method: killing a spawn of 6, waited for respawn, killed again. Was quite time consuming (approx 90 mins)

Alchemy drops total: 12
Alchemy drops types: 5 (out of 6)
Ancient Crushed Focus Stone: 2
Ancient Giant Blood: 3
Ancient Troll Blood: 1
Ancient Pure Mercury: 5
Ancient Mirror: 1
Enriched Quicksilver: 0

Other drops: 19
Other named drops: 17
Rog drops: 2

Of he named drops 4 are far below mob level, namely:
Belt of Dissension (lvl 18)
Necklace of Darkness Abhorrent (lvl 19)
Ring of Cold Abhorrent (lvl 24)
Ring of Body Abhorrent (lvl 24)
- these need to be level-adjusted

Overall Alchemy drops seem to be dropping in low quantity, even though the percentage isn’t so bad (6% in this case, which probably will be 5% if the sample size was bigger) – however, since there’s 6 different ones the chance to get the one you need is pretty low (in this case not a single quicksilver dropped). Since the camps are not very densely packed the acquisition of these drops is quite a time consumer.
Suggestion:
- increase amount dropped (5 of a kind for the common alchemy drops, 3 of a kind for the more rare ones).
- Look at drop rate (increase for common ones, for the rare ones it might be fine).
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Re: Feedback about common alchemy drop items

Mob farmed: Danaoin farmers (lvl 44-50)
Number of mobs: 360
Killed the mobs in batches of 10. Duration: approx 2 hrs

Alchemy drops total: 41 (11% drop rate)
Alchemy drop types: 6 (out of 6)
Ancient Crushed Focus Stone: 4
Ancient Giant Blood: 4
Ancient Troll Blood: 3
Ancient pure Mercury: 19
Ancient Mirror: 9
Enriched Quicksilver: 2

Other drops: 40
Other named drops (armor pieces and Jewlery): 36
RoG (Jewlery): 4

One of the named drops wasn’t the correct level range for the mobs:
Blessed Planter’s necklace (lvl 24)

Edit: Wrong conclusion - the individual drop rate for each item is 5%!
(The drop chance of the individual six alchemy items should be evenly distributed (16.67%) but it is not:
9.7% Ancient Crushed Focus Stone
9.7% Ancient Giant Blood
7.3 % Ancient Troll Blood
46.3 % Ancient pure Mercury
21.9% Ancient Mirror
4.9% Enriched Quicksilver)
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Re: Feedback about common alchemy drop items

From what I recall from this patch level of live back in the day it was about 1:20 rate back in the day as well ie: 5% overall I'd say the rates feel fine. The high tier alch pots aren't designed to be better at the cost of the reagent. My LGM Alch on Alb doing all the content is in a much better place then it was when alch first came out.

My only issue is that Pure Mercury rains compared to other matts.
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Re: Feedback about common alchemy drop items

They drop so seldom on hib, that no one is trying to farm them. There might have be some die hard animist, but they can barely kill the mobs that should drop em (purple-red mobs), after those ani nerfs.

Think they need to drop very often on all realms. And maybe let them drop from oj-reds also.
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Re: Feedback about common alchemy drop items

Lynee wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:45 am After helping to acquire a single lich tooth yesterday I decided to look at the more common alchemy drops.

Mob farmed: Danaoin fishermen (lvl 40-45 approx)
Number of mobs: 180
Method: killing a spawn of 6, waited for respawn, killed again. Was quite time consuming (approx 90 mins)

Alchemy drops total: 12
Alchemy drops types: 5 (out of 6)
Ancient Crushed Focus Stone: 2
Ancient Giant Blood: 3
Ancient Troll Blood: 1
Ancient Pure Mercury: 5
Ancient Mirror: 1
Enriched Quicksilver: 0

Other drops: 19
Other named drops: 17
Rog drops: 2

Of he named drops 4 are far below mob level, namely:
Belt of Dissension (lvl 18)
Necklace of Darkness Abhorrent (lvl 19)
Ring of Cold Abhorrent (lvl 24)
Ring of Body Abhorrent (lvl 24)
- these need to be level-adjusted

Overall Alchemy drops seem to be dropping in low quantity, even though the percentage isn’t so bad (6% in this case, which probably will be 5% if the sample size was bigger) – however, since there’s 6 different ones the chance to get the one you need is pretty low (in this case not a single quicksilver dropped). Since the camps are not very densely packed the acquisition of these drops is quite a time consumer.
Suggestion:
- increase amount dropped (5 of a kind for the common alchemy drops, 3 of a kind for the more rare ones).
- Look at drop rate (increase for common ones, for the rare ones it might be fine).
This has since been fixed and is now in the patch notes. Thanks for the feedback.

- Fixed a bug causing some items to drop much rarely than intended.
This is mainly noticed with mobs that have low chance shared drops such as mounts and rare craft ingredients.
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Re: Feedback about common alchemy drop items

Cross checked and the fix worked for common items, drop rate uniformly 5% now for each, independently :)
Thank you for the Enriched Quicksilver!
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